>> Good afternoon. It’s
4:00. We’ll call the meeting to order. Please stand for the
Pledge of Allegiance.>> I pledge allegiance to
the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands
one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
>> Welcome, everyone. I see all trustees are present. Recognition, Dr. Bebe?
>>DR. ANTHONY BEEBE: Yes. We have a special tradition here
where we recognize our faculty and
staff, administrators, for their longevity. And we have one person today,
Lorraine, 15 years nursing program support specialist. And
Allen Price is here to talk a little bit about Lorraine.>> It is my honor and
privilege to say a few words of introduction of Lorraine Michalak who is in the
audience tonight what I can say about Lorraine? Well, could I
talk about how she and her husband Mark came to Santa
Barbara 37 years ago. I can talk about how they raised two
wonderful daughters. I could talk about how she
worked in the library or how she spent two summers working in facilities for us. I
could talk about her time on the Santa Barbara bowling team where
the Alley Cats continue to try to chase that perfect game. But,
no, my comments are not so much what she has done but what she
does for us and what she means to us. Lorraine’s official title is
nursing support specialist and works tirelessly in serving and
supporting students in associate degree nursing, vocational
nursing, radiology technology, emergency medical technician,
certified nursing assistant programs. That’s her official
title. Her unofficial title and what
faculty, staff, and students know her by is Mother Lorraine.
And I think it’s fitting because I believe she exemplifies the
best of us. She exemplifies especially two
points that I believe represents us as an institution. We are an
institution of second and third chances many of our students
sometimes stumble, fall, and Lorraine is the first up to help to lift
them up to help to encourage them to continue to move
forward. We are a teaching institution. And teaching is
what we do best. We help people become better tomorrow than what
they are today. And Lorraine does that through her actions,
her words, and occasionally a friendly shoulder to cry on when
the stresses and strains of the semester weigh heavily on our
students. Today we’re recognizing 15 years of service.
And I joke with Lorraine. I say to Lorraine that those 15
years represents 1/3 of her career. She’s given us 15 years.
Why not 45? Well, she’ll smile and she’ll
shake her head no. And I have to respect that and understand
that. So every day that we have Lorraine I consider it a
blessing. And I do want to use this moment, this opportunity to
say thank you. Thank you, Lorraine, for all that you do
for Santa Barbara City College. [Applause]>> Lorraine: Thank you.
It’s been a honor and privilege to work here. I’m proud to be
part of the classified staff. Thank you. [Applause]>> Thank you, Alan. And
congratulations, Lorraine. Ok. That brings us to Item 2.6,
items to be taken out of order and we do have two items to be
taken out of order. First is Item 6.2. The trustees will go down — no,
Item 6.1, assumption of Office of the governing board. And Santa Barbara City College
is — will administer the office to returning trustees and one
new trustee, Ms. Kate parker. So I will take Angie’s mic. It
will be a little bit awkward but you’ll sort of stand as tall as
you can. So if trustee Croninger, parker,
Miller, please stand. It’s like the whole board.
>>DR. ANTHONY BEEBE: It is like the whole board.
>> Ok. I
State your name solemnly swear that I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United
States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies,>> Repeating.
>> >>foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and
allegiance to the Constitution of the United
States>>and the Constitution of the
State of California; that I take this obligation
freely without any mental reservation
or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully
discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter. [Applause] This brings us to election of
president and Vice President of the Board of Trustees. And before we begin that
process, I do have to, three, public comments. And our first speaker is Ethan
— I can’t read your last name. Is Ethan here? Then you can tell me your last
name.>> [Inaudible; off mic]
>> Oh. We won’t take Ethan. So Woodrow Davidson. Yes.
You’re up. Ok. You will have five minutes.
After two minutes, I’ll give you a two-minute warning and after
30 seconds, a 30-second warning.>> Woodrow Davidson: Good
evening, distinguished members of the board. My name is Woodrow
Davidson. I am currently a UC — third year student studying history of
policy. I understand — I’m not SBCC
student. I will say that, but I at least
live nearby and there’s a lot of SBCC students there. One of the issues that we face
today are very similar: Tuition,
housing, access to mental health
resources a lot of the problems that, you know, students face
across the country are kind of the same. And maybe some nuances here and
there. But I’m talking about this
because one person here, Jonathan Abboud,
has been really fighting for those values
and struggles from firsthand account. I think I’ve known
Jonathan for three years now. And he’s someone who is always
around, who is always working in terms of community development and
ensuring that people living there whether or not they are SBCC students have accesses
to resources and are able to — yeah, be able to really live
their lives as students with all the pressures that we face on an everyday basis. And I’m here to speak in support
of Jonathan for the Board President
of SBCC Trustees I understand not
everyone here will agree with me about that but, you know, at the end of the day, we
need someone who really is going to
fight for students. And Jonathan was a student. You know, he was
last year. And we need someone, especially nowadays, where we
don’t really see young people in positions of
authority and being able to decide and
help craft these institutions, right — the
previous speaker came up here and said these institutions — because
these institutions were built for us, for students. And it’s
important that it’s an institution of, by, and for the
students. So, yeah, I’d just like to
personally endorse, on behalf of the
students here, and one of my friends here to
support Jonathan Abboud for president.
>> Thank you.>> Thank you, Woodrow. Ok. our next speaker is Kristin is
she here?>> Hello, members of the
board. Good evening, members of the
board. I, too, am here to read a
statement of supporting Jonathan Abboud’s election for President of the SBCC Board
of Trustees. During his term Jonathan has shown himself to be
a hard-work indeeds indicated member of the board. Jonathan
has been a consistent advocate for all students, especially
from marginalized communities including LBGQ plus students,
undocumented students, students of color, including the black
student unions whose needs are all too often left out of the
conversation. He has advocated to increase diversity by
supporting the policy on faculty diversity. Jonathan further
amplified the political power of students in aiding in the
creation of the Isla Vista community services district and
establishing an MOU with the Secretary of State to increase voter
registration, supports making college affordable for all students, and as a group of
young people, the young people I am speaking on behalf of, we
know the importance of having young people in leadership
positions, especially on the SBCC Board of Trustees which
represents many young people and students. We know that as
president of the Board of Trustees, Jonathan will continue
to be a powerful, focused advocate for young people and
all SBCC students. I’m very excited to see Jonathan continue
his tireless work to make education equitiy a reality for
all SBCC students as president of the Board of Trustees. That
is the end of the statement I’ve come to read. However, I’d like to add that
not only is the community college built for just students
but it’s built for all stakeholders, including
community members, faculty members, staff, anyone who works
here at this college. And I think that Jonathan has been a
great advocate for all of these groups and stakeholders. We need
someone sincere and someone genuine and someone passionate
to lead this board. And we wholeheartedly believe that is
Jonathan Abboud. Thank you.
[Applause]>> Thank you, Kristin. Our next speaker is Ruth
Morales.>> All right. Here I go again.
Hi. Welcome Kate parker. I look
forward to work with you to help make this institution a better
place. I am faculty here, relatively new here at SBCC.
You’re stepping in during difficult times. I assure you,
however, that you are joining a community full of committed and
caring individuals. So welcome. I’m speaking here as an
individual and not as a senator. Eve Ewing sociologist wrote race
has a way of filling space even as it remains invisible. I add
to that so do many other inequities such as those dealing
withend eastern sexual orientation. Pardon me. I’m
going to speak in metaphor. What we have before us is an
iceberg. It’s so big it’s hard to fathom the enormity of the
situation even though it’s practically a living, breathing
thing staring at us in the face every single day. I agree with Rhonda McGee when
is he said that this one, that is institutional racism, will
take a while to address. As one administrator recently put it,
this is, quote, a deep societal and generational trauma, an
unheeled trauma for which we all have a role in addressing
healing. Or in my words last time, it’s a
beast. You’re not going to fix this. I’m not going to fix this.
All we can do is chip away at it. We have an opportunity to
plant the seeds for a cultural shift on this campus. That on
the face of it seems so subtle and insignificant that when we
look at the belying picture, we recognize that it’s actually a
change of course. I don’t have a silver bullet like I tell my
students, I’m not here to hand out solutions. I come with
tools. Tools such as a willingness to
actively seek out barriers, at least on this stage, to actively
seek out barriers to students’ success, purposely viewing the
system through a lens that considers the opportunities
available to our students, faculty, and staff and how
policy impacts and poses, removes these barriers to
success. Trustee Nielsen asked for measurables at the last
board meeting. For empirical evidence of injustices to deal
with. While I admire that and encourage that line of inquiry,
those are the low-hanging fruit. The hard work pertains to the
system. The iceberg. Part of the necessary cultural shift can happen at this d eh is
you’re about to vote on the next president of this body and Vice
President, I believe. We can’t afford to have a vacuum of
leadership at any level and we definitely can’t afford to have
someone at the helm who does more harm than good. We need
leadership with the willingness to listen. I struggled. I am
incredibly uncomfortable right now but I struggle to come to
this. I did. I didn’t think I would. In fact, yesterday I told
a few people I would not. But after I said that, I really —
it was tearing at me, gnawing at my throat and tugging at my
heart and that’s why I’m here right now. I am incredibly
uncomfortable and nervous but these things here need to be
said. We need leadership with a willingness to listen, a willingness to be
open and –>> Two minutes
>> Like I am right now. Ok. I’m going to skip a few
things. We need healing and wreck sill
Trie work, hand between the board and the administration
students, faculty and staff and especially the relationship with
our African American community. And let’s not forget the
weathered pillars of shared govern. — governance. Not
everyone at the table has what it takes. Trustee Gallardo, you do not
have what it takes to guide us. After witnessing you silencing
the lone Latino voice during the end of the August 9 board
meeting where you invoked the power of the gavel to enforce a
five-minute reeves and then adjourned it is clear to me and
I hope to everyone else that you are not the person for this job.
If one student who had a seat — one student who had a seat at
the table cried, literally cried, cried out when she said,
quote, the processes aren’t working for me. She said this
two times. She was not listened to or followed up with. Where
does that leave those who can’t even make it to the table? On
top of this, you used this platform to deliver one-sided
anti-ethnic rhetoric that no one expected because, mind you, it
was not on the agenda. And therefore no one had the
opportunity to aggress. If the board wants to bring in these
issues of the larger community into this institution, fine, but
there are procedural channels by which to do so. I’m afraid
having you in charge will likely do more harm than good. I ask that you reframe yourself
from throwing your name in the hat. While I’m at it —
>> 30 seconds.>> Marsha Croninger, your
statements to the young lady during the gender equity
meeting, when you told her, she said approach some boys
and told them that she didn’t appreciate what they were saying
about [Indiscernible] during the Cavanough hearings and you told
her do not bother them. You told her if they’re doing that, it is
because they think of her and look at her as a sister. That is
what this student is saying. If you don’t agree, we should
probably ask if that’s the case or not. Then because of that I
do not believe you are the person for this position either.
I have much more to say but that wraps it up.
[Applause]>> Thank you. On this vote
of the president or a general?>> [Inaudible; off mic]>> He’s not comment — ok.
>> We’re not taking anymore comments.
>> We’re done. Yeah. So item 6.2.>> That’s not what you
stated you wanted to talk about.>> [Inaudible; off mic]>> Item 6.2, election of
the president and Vice President of the Board of Trustees. So we
will take nominations either from individual trustees or from
other trustees after we take on nominations, then we will take a vote on each
one or one. Ok. Are there any nominations from
the floor either self? Yes? Trustee parker?
>> I’d be happy to nominate Jonathan Abboud as the
next president. [Applause]>> Trustee Aslan?
>>DR. PETER HASLUND: A lot of enthusiasm. Terrific.
Robert Miller.>> So we have two nominations
at the table. Anymore? Trustee Nielsen?
>> Veronica.>> So, yes. We have the ability
to succeed ourself for two years. I think working for Angie and —
has been lovely. You know, I think we’re — this
is something we rotated. I think it’s worked well for
us. While Dr. Beebe and [Indiscernible] aren’t used to
the elementary lunch schedule, it’s been great but I will yield to
my trustees for this, trustee
Nielsen but thank you, appreciate it. So we have two nominations,
trustee Abboud and Tuesday tree Miller. So the first motion. Is there a motion to have
Trustee Abboud become President of the board?
>> I think we just take a vote.
>> Take a vote>> You don’t want to take them
separately?>> No. Just have a raise.
>> All right. We will roll call. To make it easier.
>> [Inaudible; off mic]>> We don’t really have
any — you want to speak on your nomination? Of course.>> Thank you, everybody. Thank
you everybody, for the support. It means so much to me. I’ve
been asked to run now for two years. Originally I thought that
I wanted to do this position because I had a strong idea that
I ran on and less push stuff but that’s not the case anymore
because I am overwhelmed by the support that people have
personally reached out to me to run for this position. I
originally wasn’t even thinking necessarily to do it this year.
I had everyone as I ran and lost the position last year. But I’m
interested in doing this because I want to lend my skills to the
community organizer. The relationships I’ve built with so
many of you on campus and off campus and share my perspective
as both someone who served on a board for four years but also
someone who has been in an activist role lobbying a board
for many years before that, four years also. To start with
building the trust and the relationship and the respect
between this board and the college because I think it’s
broken. And I think we can’t succeed if we have a broken
trust. And I think I am uniquely positioned to be doing that
work. And we as a board cannot be successful. We will not be
successful without the trust of those who are here daily, the
students and the faculty and the staff. We’ve had a challenging
year. We all know that. It started off with a natural
disaster and then it continued with more interpersonal and racism
disaster, sexism. Being rampant on campus. I think this is a
challenge but challenges are opportunities and I think, like
I said, I’m uniquely positioned to address that — make sure
that that challenge is met and fully realize the opportunity we
have on hand. I’m a firm believer in consensus building
and compromise and collaboration. I think those are
the tenants of government and the tenants of politics. And I think we can’t move
forward in a way where we are not hearing the people who are coming to these meetings
time after time asking guests to listen. So my philosophy, and
this is more to the board but also to the public, as being
board president is going to be to keep those who are closest to
the pane closest to the power. This is not original. It’s
something I read. But I deeply believe in it. And this board
and this President position has a great deal of power. And it’s
my intention that we use that power to be proactive and using
it to the benefit of those
marginalized and heard in this campus and in this community. We
have a lot of opportunities to usually do that. We have routine
agenda items that come up. But we can do more than the routine.
I think we can do much more than the routine in terms of bringing
people in, organizing on the ground with the people we
represent, making sure we solicit adequate input from the
public and from the people at this college to
provide the board direction of how to move forward. We give
Anthony direction of how to act as superintendent but we need
you give us the direction. And we need to be soliciting your
input and not cutting you off at 4:00 p.m. to turn in your public
comments, for example. So I may not agree with
everything — [Applause]
I may not agree with everything the board — but I
agree with a lot of the board. But my job as president is to
make sure that each board member’s voice is heard but also
each of your voices and the decisions we’re making as a
board. So thank you. I hope you consider my election as
>> Thank you. So we will take this like we do when we
vote for the [Indiscernible] board. When Angie calls your
name, state the trustee that you are voting for. Is that clear? So you’ll either say Trustee
Abboud or Miller.>>
>> Trustee Miller.>> Trustee Abboud?
>> Trussee Abboud.>> Abboud.
>> Haass land?>> Robert Miller.
>> Trustee parker?>> Trustee Abboud.
>> Trustee Miller?>> Trustee Miller.
>> Trustee Croninger?>> Trustee Miller.
>> Trustee Nielsen?>> Trustee Miller.>> Student trustee?>> Students we choose trussee
>> Ok. So your next Board of Trustee
president is Trustee Miller. Congratulations, Trustee Miller. Trustee Miller, you will now
hold the election for the Vice President of the board. And you
will go up to the top of the agenda to take your stack of
public comments. We do have more than the 20 minutes allowed for
any given topic. So one option that we talked about was a
two-minute for each speaker so they can each stay within the 20
minutes and allow everyone to speak but that will be at your
discretion. And it’s here. These have been taken. So we move over
to Angie. And I will switch seats with
you.>>ROBERT MILLER: First of
all, I want to thank the board for
honoring me with this position. It was not something that I was
seeking. But I am prepared to serve. I’ve
been here eight, nine months. I forget the exact amount but I
think I joined the board the first of
march. And not really knowing completely what I was getting into, when people
first approached me about filling a vacancy on the board I
was interested. It sounded interesting but it was not something that I had ever done
before. But it has quickly — it quickly became I think a passion
of mine. This school is such an
exceptional place. It has such exceptional people. And every
single member of this board is an exceptional person that I
have enjoyed getting to know. I’ve enjoyed getting to know
President Beebe. I found him to be an exceptional leader. So I’m really humbled and
honored with this being elected to be the President of the
board. I guess now I’ll get to the task of trying to understand
the agenda and how to run it. Let me ask –>> [Inaudible; off mic]
>>ROBERT MILLER: Our first — is our first item on the agenda the
additional public comments or the election of Vice President?
>> Election of Vice President, yeah.
>>ROBERT MILLER: So I invite nominations for Vice
President. Trustee?>> Nominate Peter Haslund.
>> Any other nominations?>> Why do you think Peter?
>> You know, if you find it helpful, I know that when I
took over for Marsha and then working
together and I were working together, I was often also — we
had a couple of meetings. It was all three of us because we had to sort of lean on just things
that Marsha had been dealing with or taking care of. So if it’s helpful to you, I can
serve in that capacity but I think, you know, if Trustee Hasland would like to
do that as well, I think that we all communicate well but we did
end up having a little triad until the beginning with, like,
Jonathan, myself, and Marsha. And then you can’t talk to
anybody else. It got kind of tricky. And we just thought
that. So it just really depends on
what you feel you’ll need. We’re all certainly available and we
hash things out here at this table. I don’t know, Trustee Hasland,
what do you think?>>DR. PETER HASLUND: I don’t
mind serving. I haven’t done that for a long time. That’s
fine with me. I have a view, and it differs with what Jonathan was saying, that the
reference to the President of this board,
a seven-member, plus a student
leader, is not the same as in the world of
routine politics where there’s a lot of political power
associated with it. I adopt the servant mode of
leadership here. Your job, Robert is to make sure
that everybody on the dies has an
equal chance at expressing him or
herself, getting the debate to the point where it remains civil
and that we can disagree with each other and then we take a
vote and we do so in an orderly
fashion. And in addition to that, your
job is to represent us, this board. You’re a servant of this
collective entity, to the rest of the community, to not only
the campus community but to the larger community. And you’re
going to be called on from time to time to say stuff to the
Santa Barbara community. And it’s not just a reflection of
what you think. It’s a reflection of what we think. It is a collective entity here
where the actual political power is. And we select you to represent
us in that respect. I hope that makes —
>> With that, would you gladly accept the nomination?
>>DR. PETER HASLUND: Sure.
>> And I will second that nomination.
>> Kenny?>>KENNY IGBECHI: I don’t know
if I have the power to. Do I?>>DR. PETER HASLUND: I
don’t know I think you do.>>KENNY IGBECHI: I think
[Indiscernible] I would like to nominate [Indiscernible] as Vice
President.>>ROBERT MILLER: So we have a
nomination for Jonathan Abboud and we have a nomination for Peter
Haslund. Any other nominations? [No Audible Response]
Ok. I’ll ask to have the vote taken.>> Student trustee?
>> Trustee Abboud.>> Trustee Nielsen?
>> Trustee haslund.>> Trustee coniiner?
>> Trustee Haslund.>> Trustee Gallardo?
>> Trustee Haslund.>> Trustee parker?
>> Trustee Haslund. .>> Trustee Haslund?
>> Oh, let me think. No, I will vote for myself.
>> Trustee Abboud?>> Trustee Haslund.
>> Trustee Miller?>> Trustee Haslund? — Haslund.>> Trustee Haslund.
>> This board president position has an incredible
amount of power. It does. Marsha silenced a student two
years ago and that harms the community here. Marsha blocked a
resolution supporting undocumented students using the
power of the presidency. Veronica silenced a black woman
using the power of the presidency. I think you’re
wrong. [Applause]>>DR. PETER HASLUND: If
I’m not wrong, then I think the fault lies with us for not stopping them when they were
making a mistake. And that’s what we need to do.
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: I wish you don’t follow in the
footsteps of your predecessors, Robert.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Yes, Marsha?
>>MARSHA CRONINGER: Briefly. Jonathan, I disagree with your
statements but I don’t think this is the time and place to
discuss it. So I suggest we discuss it separately.
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: Right on.>>ROBERT MILLER: Any
other comments from the board? Trustee Nielsen?
>>CRAIG NIELSEN: I’ll repeat what trustee Martin
Luther Kinger just said but I’ll add this. — trustee Koenninger
said. But I’ll add this I know exactly what the previous
presidents did. I’ve been at this board. And how you reach the conclusion
that they did what you accuse them of
is, up, is just like stretching the truth. It’s like making it
up to be what you want it to be. It’s my turn to talk. I’m sorry.
I listened to you. And I always have when you’ve had the floor. Sometimes it gets down to just
having opinions that are so strong that
override facts. I can’t agree with that. And we have disagreed
on some things. Not too often. But this time it’s my turn to
disagree. And we can have a discussion later at a more
appropriate time. Thank you.>>ROBERT MILLER: So I
believe we move to public comments at this juncture. And we have — I have a stack
here I will call. And I believe we’re still following the five
minutes, five-minute rule?>> It’s up to you.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Yes. Let’s do that. The first speaker I have is for Nicole Hubert.
>> Dr. Bee be, be members of the board, thank you for
providing this platform. Any name is Nicole Hubert, manager
at the college and parent of a current SBCC student. I’m here
to address the current climate at our college. I’m speaking
because the silence is deafening and by remaining silent I’m
complicit in the growth of tension that have divide our
college community. Forced recognition of Lyndsay Maas will
further divide our campus without addressing the
persistent racism and social inyeckities that our students
and staff experience. I want this incident to be used as a
catalyst for radical change this work starts with us challenging
our socialization, to understand the needs of systemic racism in
our institutions and to better ourselves. Today the campus
climate is one of division and fear among our staff and
managers. We have lost an ability to engage in discussions
with respect and compassion. Instead we have adopted a
call-out culture, we are no longer seeking to understand one
another, rather simply casting stones. Individuals are afraid
to speak for fear of retaliation. And I keep hearing
that there are no safe spaces on campus. I fear — I feel a risk
of retaliation for speaking here today. I don’t understand how forcing
the resignation will further our work to remove racism and inhe canits
from our college. I implore you, Dr. Beebe and Board of Trustees
to communicate how SBCC’s institutional racism will be
evaluate and present us with a solid, realistic and achievable
plan to dismantle it for good on our campus. And as these steps
are employed, communicate the progress, including the changes,
the challenges, the successes include us as partners in the
process so that we may fully participate and grow in
solidarity. We need strong leadership to support us, to
lead us, and to unify us. Thank you.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you.
[Applause] Next speaker is Matt Lorden.
>> Good evening, Dr. B and members of the board. I’m here
to suppress my support for those affected of Lyndsay Maas’s use
of the N word in a gender equity meeting last month and I’m also
here to express my support for Lyndsay Maas. I worked in the
same office with Lyndsay for over two years when she was
comptroller. During that period I had many interactions with her
and by proximity witnessed more of her interactions with a host
of different people from all over campus who had many
different racial backgrounds. I never once saw Lyndsay say or do
anything that could be considered racially incentive or
preferencal towards any particular race or group.
Lyndsay was well liked by her staff and in my opinion she
treated everyone with the same respect and fairness. She’s
extremely devoted to SBCC. She has integrity and a strong work
ethic. Her exemplary work to help guide us through the budget
deficit is merely one example of those qualities. I also believe the fact that
Lyndsay agreed — I also believe that the fact that Lyndsay
agreed to chair the gender equity work group shows she is
committed to equity and to SBCC’s vision. Many people were
shocked and hurt by what — by her use of this word and
understandably so. I do not in any way condone its
use, under any circumstances or the use of any other racially
incentive words. And I agree there should be consequences
though I don’t personally know anyone who was negatively
effected, I want you all to know I respect you and I want you to feel safe here at
SBCC. I support the black faculty and
staff association and other Cole coalitions and I believe the
action points that Dr. Bibi lists in his December 3
e-mail can bring about positive change. But with all due
respect, I do not agree with the demand for resignation. It’s too
extreme given the context of what she said. I can’t imagine
any reason why Lyndsay would go into a meeting with the idea
that saying this word would be somehow beneficial. I have to
believe this was inadvertently said and I believe her actions
after saying the word backed that up. If Lyndsay had planned
to use this word, why did she cry shortly after saying it and why was she
immediately apologetic? To me her actions show remorse which I
believe is consistent with that of someone who misspoke. We are
all human. I’m sorry. We are all human. And every one of us at
some point in our lives has made the mistake saying something in
a way we did not intend for it to be said. What was said was
wrong but it wasn’t done with malice or to disparage
anyone. The sentence was an exclamation over the shock of
learning that students are currently being called this
horrible word on our campus and it obviously came out wrong. I
personally know many staff who support Lyndsay that are afraid
to speak up for fear they will be unfairly labeled as racist and will be
targeted. This makes the appearance Lyndsay does not have
as much support as she actually does. I share their fear but
feel it’s important to stand up for those you believe in and for
fairness. I know I share the feelings of a great many SBCC
staff who feel terrible for both the persons affected and
for Lyndsay. The continued calls for resignation have already
lowered the morale of staff and do nothing to help race
relations in my opinion, if Lyndsay is forced to leave SBCC, it will make the
racist situation on campus worse because it will scare away
employees from taking part in similar committees and to
retreat from the subject of race altogether for fear that if they
attempt to engage in it any type of
racial dialogue they are one word —
one unintentionally misspoken word away from having their
career destroyed. When people become scared to discuss a topic
and scared to speak out for what they feel right, is right, it
not only creates a toxic environment, it makes it more difficult to create
positive change. If forced, resignation would cause
irreparable damage to Lyndsay’s career and directly impact her
family. How is doing that kind of harm
to someone justified by what was said? For a college community,
that prides itself on being progressive and compassionate, a
forced resignation would be regressive and reactionary
response to a situation that could be better used as learning
experience for all. I feel the focus should be on
healing, communication, and campus unity instead of
continued attacks on Lyndsay Maas and further divisiveness.
Thank you. [Applause]>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you. The next speaker is Brittany
Herrera.>> Hello, President Beebe and
Board of Trustees. Thank you for having me here today. I’m
extremely anxious so I apologize if I stutter. I’m going to read
something I wrote here today. I’m here today because I’d
like to address a couple of things that have been bothering
me about everything that’s going on after the
November 14 situation. I want to start off by saying
not that I was shocked that there’s so much racism on this
campus but I was shocked by the lack of action that was taken to
help our students when they were coming forward with their
experiences this is completely horrifying to think about the
courage it must have taken to speak up about an issue of race
and to have to report it to a white administration and have no action taken is
completely heartbreaking. Situations like this where the
administration needed to stand up and take a stand for black
students, this is where it needs to be addressed. They needed to
be shown that they weren’t alone. And I’m hoping after
this, after everything that our college is going through right now, we will start
to grow and stand by the right things.
With that being said, I do want to say that things are
never just black and white. At the moment I’m seeing so much
division in this college when there should be unity instead.
This is a time where everyone needs to come together and
really demand change but we can’t do that when there’s fear
amongst colleagues. I, myself, worked directly with Lyndsay.
From my experience as a person of color I have always felt seen
and heard by her. But I’m only speaking for myself and my
experience. Of course I’m going to have some trouble with the
first demand and I completely support all of the other demands
but from my values and principles, I don’t believe a
person should be condemned for life for making a mistake only
to serve as an example. And from all of the information we have
been presented with such as the e-mail threats and what you
hear, this is what it sounds like.
I think as much as we’re angry at this administration we
need to look at the individuals themselves. And, again, this is only my
opinion. I really believe that people should be allowed to ask
questions to have doubts to question one’s demand, to
question all three demands because this is how we learn and
this is how we become educated and how we spread knowledge and
just because people don’t understand or want to question
something doesn’t mean that they’re against the cause it
just means that they’re human. A couple of days ago I sat
with a friend that’s part of the [Indiscernible] and someone from
the black faculty and staff association. I was terrified to
ask questions because before — before this because I felt like
what if I say the wrong thing? What if I don’t word my question
correctly? Will I receive backlash for this? Will I be
labeled as one that does not support our black faculty staff
and students? Regardless I went. And I cannot explain to you how
much I appreciated both of them. They spoke to me in a safe place
with no judgment and we were able to have a conversation. We
ended and I was able to go home and make an informed opinion.
Follow-up questions arose. And guess what. I contacted them and said can we
speak again? I also met with Dr. Beebe, voiced my opinions, asked
questions, and had a conversation. I’m trying to my
best to understand and to become informed but I’m also trying to
stand up for what I believe in. And I think it’s a lot of us on
this campus or even all of us regardless if we agree or not. I
have been approached by colleagues that had never met
before because they feel the same way that I do and what I’m
hoping that will come out of this, of me standing up here and
giving the unpopular opinion, is that it will open or pave a way for conversation
that this will give people the courage to speak up and not
against black students faculty and staff but speak up if they
have questions if they want explanations that this
encourages them to seek answers on their own. And I’m hoping
everyone else is willing to have a conversation and to start to
come together because our college needs to heal from all
of this hurt. And we should start with the people that make
this campus run. Thank you.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you.
[Applause]>>ROBERT MILLER: Our next
speaker is Carrie Hutchinson.>> Good afternoon, Board
of Trustees my name is Carrie
Hutchinson, a full-time faculty member in the communication
department and a community organizer for racial justice.
Today I’d like to share some information from the American
Council on Education’s report about the racial crisis at the
University of Missouri in 2015 from which I believe we can
learn. This comprehensive report which I encourage you to read in
full serves as a cautionary tale about what can
be expected at our institution as we attempt to move forward
from the disastrous climate in which we currently find
ourselves. In the report the team of
researchers highlight several key takeaways, one of which is
particularly relevant today as we prepare to go on winter break
and return for a fresh semester in January. The report explains how after
some time passes leaders often mistake a
quieter campus for a sign that things are improving. You’ve
probably noticed already that certain e-mail threads which I’m
sure you’re reading have slowed or
stopped altogether. Hallway conversations have shifted to
new and different topics. And fewer people are lined up to
speak during public comments. When these changes occur, which
they will, you may feel a sense of relief. And that would be
natural. But you would be wrong to
mistake this quiet for healing or for
resolution. Specifically, the report warns us of the
following. Recognize silence. After a racial crisis, many
leaders see a quiet campus as a sign of things calming down and
moving back to “Normal.” This, however is rarely the case. The
desire for campus leaders to move to silence is
understandable after an extended period of intense emotion.
However, quiet does not necessarily mean that the campus
is back to normal. In fact, quiet most often means
that problems are simmering just below the surface. Which only invites setback. I
would add to that even if it things were to go back to normal on our
campus, which many perceived as normal,
it is not acceptable. Our black students, faculty, and staff
have explained in great detail what a normal day at City
College can be like for them. Thanks to their bravery and
risks and trauma that they endured by educating our campus
no one can continue to use the excuse that they didn’t know.
It’s time to raise the bar on our campus for what constitutes
as a normal day. The report continues by advising
that leaders must be committed to ensuring a positive campus
racial climate for all students, staff,
and faculty long after the crisis
has waned. So I came by the meeting today
as a friendly reminder to each and every one of you to resist the comfort
that you may feel as things appear to calm down on our
campus, particularly after the break. And instead to double down on
your commitment or renew your commitment or for some of you
begin your commitment, to transforming this institution
into one that is safe, inclusive, and
accountable to every member of its community.
Thank you. [Applause]
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you. Next speaker is Melissa — and I
can’t read the last name — Menalese?>> Hello. Hello, board
members, Dr. Bee be. I was here to speak with you on November 19
asking you please listen to the requests that were being made on
that day. In relation to the November 14
incident. And today I’m here again just to kind of reiterate those requests. Ironically the day after that
November 14 meeting we hosted our annual
[Indiscernible] lecture. And as you all know, the [Indiscernible] lecture is a
memorial series that is honoring a former
student who was brutally stabbed due to
a hate crime in 1990 because of his
ethnic and national identity. And so this lecture series is
really there for us to build awareness about some of these
issues that are unfortunately, 30 years later, still plaguing this campus community.
So this year we had the privilege of listening to Patrise Kohlers.
And during the Q&A session she has asked very specifically about
how to respond to incidences of racism
on the campus and she had three recommends one was that administration needed
to be held accountable. The second was that there should be
a zero tolerance policy. And a third was that antiracist
training should be required. And she had some other things that
she said but those were the three main giveaways. So on November 19 you heard a
list of three requests by our black
faculty and staff association, our black student union the SBCC
student coalition for justice, the SBCC coalition for
justice, and then last week at the December 6 meeting you heard a letter of
solidarity signed by staff and faculty members who also agreed with those three
requests. Another question Ms. Kohlers was
asked was about how do you build conversations about race. And I think that that was asked
pretty much in relation to some of the other speakers in terms
of how do you have those conversations so that you can
build unity. So the same desires that have been expressed
earlier. And Ms. Colors — Kohlers’ response to
that was that the first thing, if you are going to have a unified community, is
that the people of privilege need to own
racism and the second thing is that we need to bring people
outside of the campus to start the dialogue. And that those
were the two key things that she pointed out in terms of
how to establish that unity. So last week at the board
meeting we heard from an adjunct faculty member who spoke who voiced some of
what was said today already but she also
characterized those who were demanding these requests as “The extreme
left who silent the rest. ” And so I’m just bringing that
out because I’m feeling that there is a little bit of a backlash not
just for those who feel they’re being silence because they
support Lyndsay but there is a backlash on this campus
happening to those people who are voicing
what is going on and are really hurt by
the situation. And I mean, I’ve been here for 12 years as a
faculty member. And ever since I’ve enters —
entered the campus speaking about any of these issues of
institutional racism because they do have a long history here
has never been approved by the majority. In fact, I’ve
witnessed in many meetings where my colleagues, myself included, have often been
labeled to focus on race, or racists
against whites or unfairly calling others racist because of
wanting to have that conversation or at least wanting
to think about [Indiscernible] data
or how certain students are faring on this campus as a result to white
privilege. Seen that is kind of the normalized culture here. So
I think that if we’re going to have this unity that everyone
desires, we need to have those very hard and difficult
conversations. And it might be divisive to some
but the division often arises because it’s a questioning of what we’ve
assumed to be normal. And what we want is a place where there
really is compassion so that somebody who looks like me can
say what I want to say and not be silent —
silenced. So I think that part of — I’m
shaking. I don’t know if you can tell. Like Ruth. I’m really nervous because I
don’t usually speak in these kinds of
forums. But I’m also nervous –>>ROBERT MILLER: I’m
sorry. Your time’s up but if you could just conclude.
>> I’m sorry. I didn’t know that. I just wanted to say that I’m
basically, you know, I’m speaking and I’m doing this even
though it’s not my usual because I’m tired of being sites i
silenced and I I think that maybe that’s partly why some
folks are feeling division because those who have not said
anything before are actually saying something.
Thank you. [Applause]
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you. I guess I’m supposed to
warn the speakers when two minutes is
closing in. Next speaker is Dr. Raeanne Napolean.>> All right. Cool. I
started go. Ahead. Hey. Hi. Part of faculty. Each and every time
I come up here it’s pretty contentious. Pretty
confrontational and yeah, I’m going to be again unfortunately. The last time I came before you
I was speaking specifically about a new BP that was developed, BP3705
speakers that was developed out of the gender equity Ad Hoc
Committee work. And what I shared with you last time was
that I was concerned about the protocols outlined in that BP. Marsha, you mentioned that in
their discussion, and I remember Jonathan and you were going back
and forth about this, you know, you were
discussing this board policy and the procedures
outlined within it as though they were suggestions for how
faculty and how people on this campus and in this community are
going to go about things. Provide uh-oh. Ruth’s phone
locked. My son has my phone. He’s watching [Indiscernible].
The reason why I needed the picture was I was going to read
to the board what a board policy is which I know seems a little
condescending but you all, last week two weeks ago, sat up here
discussing what a board policy is and we’re saying that it’s
just a suggestion and that kind of just blows my mind that our
board members don’t realize the board policy is actually —
yeah, there’s a lock on it. It’s all right. Whatever. I missed my
moment. It’s all good. Board policy is actually an
administrative procedure that governs Santa Barbara City
College. And the fact that you guys can sit up here talking about as if it was
a suggestion — and Marsha, you’re a lawyer. Robert, you’re
a lawyer. You know board policy isn’t a suggestion. A ha, yay.
Board policy are statements or guidelines adopted by the Board
of Trustees to be used by the administration and the
development and implementation of regulations and procedures for operating in the
district. I mean, sorry, but were you guys being purposely
misleading with those comments? I just don’t understand how you
don’t know the board policy is, in
fact, you know, procedures that are being outlined. And again,
I’m just going to state the obvious. If you’re saying that a
community member, whether it’s faculty,
staff, or otherwise has to go to the
President’s superintendent and/or public safety with
concerns and they’re not allowed to speak up on their own campus,
that’s going against the very nature of academic freedom. And
I just don’t even know how you guys wept there. And after months of listening to
Dr. Daniel [Indiscernible] and Ellen, Carrie and myself and
other folks speaking up about this stuff, I just don’t know
how that that’s where you went. Let’s silence faculty members so
that they can’t speak up about things that are happening.
ing.>>ROBERT MILLER: You have two
minutes left.>> Cool. Awesome. Two minutes.
The other thing I want to speak to tonight, is you all just elected
your new Chairman of the Board, many of you were sworn in again
tonight. It bothers me that you heard
from community members and you saw the support given to
Jonathan and each and every one of you, almost, went against
that. Now, I can appreciate that you all have your certain biases
and views of certain, you know, board members and some of you
have worked with each other for a while and you might have
certain reasons why you’re doing certain things but Ruth spoke
about healing and working with faculty and moving forward. I’m
not there yet. Trust me, I am not there yet. But other people
are. And so it’s clear to me that tonight when you ignored
those comments and the claps from the faculty members
that are here that clapped in support of Jonathan, that you
went with another choice with the chairman. It’s obvious to me
that the board is not ready to work with faculty or the actual
voices of the people that work and live on this campus day in
and day out. So sorry, I’m going to be Debbie
downer. I don’t think we’re going to move forward very
quickly. And I think it’s going to continue to be painful. And I
think I’m going to come up here each and every week and point
out truth. Ruth is not only one that went back and forth about
speaking tonight. I specifically said I wasn’t going to speak.
Then she texted me today and said, Lae, you need to speak.
Each and every time you get up there, you speak truth. Unfortunately your voice has
been diminished. Lord knows that’s the truth. My voice
certainly has. I’ve lost a lot of cent on this campus with
especially you board members. But I’m going to keep trying.
I’m going to keep coming back and pull holding you guys
accountable and being confrontational because I don’t
know what else to do. I come to work every day and look at what
happened with all of this racism and sexism stuffer and all of
this stuff and I’m just sick of it. And I’m going to keep trying
to work really hard and how old all accountable like I already
[Applause]>>ROBERT MILLER: Know. Speaker is Ellen Carey.>> So when I put in my slip to speak, I put it under the topic
of leadership. And then wasn’t given an opportunity to speak
about the board leadership which is what I wanted to speak on.
Even when I raise mid hand and said, you know, my slip was for that
purpose. So I just want to point that out
as an example of how much power the President of this board has.
In determining who speaks and who doesn’t speak. And in determining not just the
technicalities but also the sense of welcome. Who is welcomed to speak, whose
voices are welcomed, and whose voices
are marginalized in any number of ways. So what I wanted to say, which
I’m adjusting a little, is that I noticed that last week several of you
spoke of having things illuminated to
you that had been invisible to you in the past. From listening
to people speak here, from reading white fragility,
having your eyes opened to the fact that what do you know,
racism still exists in this world, I find it hard to believe
that that had to be an awakening type of experience, that that’s
not something that you were aware of already, especially at
a Hispanic-serving institution. But I also applaud it because
opening our minds as white people, opening our minds to the
experience of people who don’t have the privilege we have is
really important. And we all need to see that and continue
doing it. And I encourage you to continue
doing it. At the same time, I was going to
speak to the needs for leaders to
already be there. And that’s why I, as an individual, wanted to support Jonathan
Abboud’s candidacy for board president because he’s already
there. He already gets the experience of our students. He already gets the experience
of the marginalized voices on this campus, faculty, staff, and
students. And he is the only one on this board. I don’t know you, Kate parker,
and welcome, but the only — ongoing
board member who really has gotten
that. And Kenny, I don’t really know you either. But also you’re
newer to the board as well. So I’m speaking to the longer
standing board members. And so that’s why I would have supported Jonathan’s candidacy.
And honestly, trustee Miller, I think you should have declined
the nomination. You spoke — you just
acknowledged that your inexperienced on this board and that you had not intended to
lead it. Jonathan desired that leadership
position and has the skills and experience to do it. So I think
it’s unfortunate. Having said that, I’m sure you’ll see me
here again. And I will continue speaking, as
Rae said, coming up and speaking my
truth and saying what needs to be said. And I ask that going forward you
examine and maintain awareness of your limitations. Trustee
Miller and all of you, particularly around the issue of
race, and listen to those with deeper understanding of those issues.
And be humble. This is going to be a learning process for
everyone. And I just ask that all of you
— like I did last week when I was here talking about white
fragility and privilege, I asked that all of us, as white
people, examine the ways that we are
complicit in racism that we are complicit in the systems that continue to silence
students, faculty, staff of color on this campus and in the larger
community. And I had add that some of that
is the very system like what do fill out on a form for a public comment and
how does even the clarity of a form like
that marginalize or silence or make it difficult for certain
voices? I grew up with college-educated parents and went to a seven
sister school and I didn’t fill the form out right apparently. So what does that say about
other voices on this campus who even, when faced with a form to speak
publicly, might fill it out wrong?
Thank you. [Applause]>>ROBERT MILLER: Next
speaker is Robin Goodnow.>> Hi. I don’t like to be
here either. A lot of people have said that.
I want to agree with what Ellen said, with what Ruth said
earlier. This is an iceberg. I want to agree with what
Jonathan said. I’ve watched every board meeting or attended
every board meeting for the last year and a half and I have to
sadly agree with the comments that you made, Jonathan, about
the behavior of some of our board members. This was a very
disheartening beginning to the meeting tonight. I also
supported Jonathan. Because Jonathan has revealed
himself to get it over the past year.
I want to go a little bit farther back than just recent
events. I first came to SBCC as a
student and I had my speaker of the experience with sexual
harassment by a faculty member here, not the last
unfortunately. I’ve been both an adjunct faculty member and now a
full-time faculty member for over 20 years. It was no
surprise to me that gender bias, sexual harassment and
misogyny are rampant at SBCC. I’ve been an ESL faculty member
for over 20 years on this campus. So it was definitely no
surprise to me that there’s institutionalized racism, racial bias, and inequity on our
campus. I’m actually much more puzzled when someone says that
they’re shocked and surprised to learn we have equity issues on this campus. And I have been
surprised by the actions of our boards and leadership — our
board and leadership in the last year.
Last year I watched as a campaign of harassment and misogynistic
attacks began against four female colleagues on our campus.
And I was shocked then. I was shocked by the response of the
board, the college superintendent, president, and
our campus leadership. I watched the board meetings and thought
surely at some point the board, our president, our
administration, our faculty, leadership would take action to
support my colleagues. What I saw instead was familiar
and Melissa alluded to it, eye-rolling, sighing, a sense
that the victims of these attacks were the problem or at least a part of it. So I joined
the equity committee when it started. I was at the meeting
that has been brought up so many times. I think it’s really
important to remember that the very committee that is now the
focus of an investigation around racial inequity and biasen on
our campus was initiated to begin to address gender equity
and bias on our campus. In the fall I started to attend
board meetings rather than watch them on YouTube because I
thought there needed to be visible witnesses here. I
did this at the time because of the board’s treatment,
particularly Veronica, your treatment of crystal Farmer, Dr. Rae Anne Napolean, Ellen carry,
Danielle swantek among others who came before the board to
speak in support of them. Recent events have put us, I hope, firmly beyond the deniability
point although for many of us we were there a long time ago. I
look around my campus and I see the pain that has been caused in
our leadership’s inaction and misstems everywhere. I also see
many of my colleagues and students seeking to begin to try
moving forward positively. But we still have a lot of
unfinished business to address first. Amends really need to be
made for the wrong and harm done. The wrongs have to be
acknowledged and apologized for personally and meaningfully.
The methodology for addressing these issues has been
deeply flawed to say the least. In response to revelations of
inequity and pleased to respond appropriately, you have accused
those who brought concerns before you of incivility. You
have problem tiesed them. You’ve equated their behavior and that
of their attackers. You have trivialized their pain by
equating them and others with tantrumming toddlers.
>>ROBERT MILLER: One minute left.
>> You have silenced them, dismissed them, told them to get
over it, stop talking about it stop interrupting and move on.
You’ve asserted that isolated incidents don’t mean there’s a
problem. In short, you became part of the attack and caused
greater pain. I’m going to hurry. I’ve read and heard the
apologies issued by Dr. Beebe with regard to his responses to
the racial incidents that happened in the gender equity
meeting. I’m still waiting for — to hear
his and the board’s acknowledgment that this issue
didn’t start this semester. In addition to the apologies and
acknowledgements that must be made and that you’re beginning
to attempt this board and Dr. Beebe, especially you, trustee
Gallardo, you owe crystal Farmer a personal apology for the
treatment she received here, an apology that truly acknowledges
the wrong done to her. You owe Dr. Napolean, Dr. Carry, and Dr.
Swantek a personal apology acknowledging the wrongs done to
them. Please avoid the urge to
continue to sweep wrongdoing under the rug and pretend that
it hasn’t happened. There’s a lot of work to do, a lot of
damage has been done. And you have a lot of amends to make.
Thank you. [Applause]>>ROBERT MILLER: Our next
speaker is Ethan Bertrand.>> I apologize I wasn’t
here earlierier. Thank you for accepting my comment. I really
appreciate it This is a really challenging
time auto for the district. — time for the district. It’s
heartbreaking to hear so many of the comments and so much of
what’s going on from racial equity issues to gender equity
issues and it’s clear that there’s a lot of division on the
board right now. I originally was planning on coming here
tonight to support Jonathan — Jonathan Abboud, my trustee for
president. And I really wish that he was sitting in the
President’s seat tonight. Nonetheless, with ow this
outcome has arrived, I’m rooting for all of you. I’m routing for
your success because your success is the district’s
success. The success of our leaders that we have here is really what will make
sure Santa Barbara City College continues to be the great school
that it is. With that in mind, there’s an opportunity to do the
right thing. And the right thing is taking decisive action to
stand with students of color and to stand with women on this
campus, to stand with people who are most oppressed by what’s
going on here. There’s a lot that’s gone wrong other the past
year. We all know that. Whatever side you’re on, whatever you’ve
done to address it, that’s already happened but going
forward there’s a great opportunity to really make
right. And I heard the comments about
those who stand with Ms. Maas. I’m sure she’s a great person.
I’m sure she’s a great leader. But as someone who is a student
of color here, as someone who
remembers the pain of being called that word in school
growing up in an all white town, and as someone who has learned
more than I wanted to learn about hate speech in this town,
I really implore you to take action. So thank you.
[Applause]>>ROBERT MILLER: Ok. Now we are going to take up —
move to item 11. 1, audit reports for the fiscal
year ending June 30, 2018. Do we have a –>> We have James — are you
going to present this or you have the CPA firm?
>> [Inaudible; off mic]>> Ok.>> All right. Good
evening, president beebe, members of the board. This is
the time of the year when we have finally finished our audit
from last year. And it’s all wrapped up with a pretty bow and gets brought to you guys
so tonight we have Ryan Milligan
here from, what is it [Indiscernible] and — anyway, BTD, you are
audit firm. They’ve done the audit for us this year and for
the last couple of years. So he’s here to present the audit
and answer any questions you might have.>> Thank you. Good
evening, ladies and gentlemen of the board, Dr. Bee be. My name is Ryan Milligan, CPA
and manager at the firm of [Indiscernible]. It is a
mouthful. I am here to present you three
audit reports that we did over the 17-18 fiscal year. One
district report, one for measure V and one for the parking fees
program. I have over 150 pages of reports here. I am only going
over a few highlight ones so I’m not ruining anyone’s night going
over each one of these pages in extreme detail. I’m going to start with the
district financial report. And on Page 3, at the very top,
we have our audit opinion over the financial statements which
is one of three opinions we give in the audit reports. And if I
could just read the first part of the sentence, it just says in
our opinion the financial statements referred to present
fairly and all material aspects the respective financial
position of the business type activities. That wording is what
we consider an unmodified opinion. It is the highest level
after insurance that an audit firm can give the
district or really any entity regarding the financial
statement being materially correct.
On page 5 at the very first major section of the report is
what we call the management’s discussion and analysis. This is
about a 10-page area where management has provided
commentary to a lot of the long, boring numbers that make up the
majority of this report. Gives it a little bit more context, a
little bit more relevant factors to you as a board. If you read
nothing else from this 120-page report, please read these 10
pages. I’m going to skip over into near
the end of the footnotes. The one accounting change that not
only SBCC had but all community colleges, all K through 12
school districts had is there was a change in accounting
principle in regards to OPEB, postemployment benefits other
than pensions. In the past these were allowed to be amortized
over a 30-year period. However, with this year the whole entire
liability was brought on to the books of the district. And that affected the district
by about $3.6 million. It may sound like a lot. I have seen districts smaller
than SBCC have $203 million, that number. So districts
obviously done a good job managing those costs and that
liability. On page 72 of the record, it’s
something I believer I was asked to speak about last year and I
it just is a history of the pension funding
and the obligation is broken out. You can see for the most part
the liability has gone up every year. This is a liability that is
actuary I can’t recall determined, revised every single
year. There are several factors that go into this. Unfortunately
it’s one of these things that really the district does not
have control over. The next page I would like to go over is page 83. This is a reconciliation between
the districts’ funds to our audit
report. The district — I believe the October board meeting is presented with
the CC — 311Q submitted to the chancellor’s office. And this
page is a reconciliation between our report and that report that was presented to the board at
that meeting. It is a blank page. Blank pages from auditors are
good things. We like — there’s a saying that auditors are
negative people because we can only give negative assurance. We
can’t give positive assurance. So blank pages is how we do
that. And then page 97 of the report which is basically what we call
the auditor’s report card. It gives the three financial
opinions that we do give or the three
audit opinions — sorry, financial statements, federal
awards, state awards. All three opinions were
unmodified and were no what we call significant deficiencies or
material weak is ins in internal control over those three
opinions. And at the very end of the page of the report concludes
with a bunch of blank pages indicating we had no —
significant deficiencies or material weaknesses in the
control structure of the district.
That concludes for the district audit. Any questions?
>>ROBERT MILLER: Any questions?>> Thank you. I appreciate
that. It’s an excellent audit report. And coming from the K-12
environment where there’s always findings and to look at this and
see no findings whatsoever, thank you. But it’s really huge
shout-out to fiscal services>> Absolutely.
>> Because that is hard work. And diligence. And I hope
SBCC is really proud of that.>> And our report is not
also just fiscal services. We work with student services,
triple SP, equity programs, admissions and records,
financial aid. We audit in several areas that
are all incorporated to hearing every single one individually
and every single one of those departments has been amazing to
work with, very helpful in our audit
>> Thank you for sharing.>>ROBERT MILLER: Any
other questions?>> Thank you for calling out
the stirs inpours.>> Absolutely. I remember last
year.>> I I know you do I wanted to
say thank you for doing that. And I kind of jumped ahead. I
know we have the budget timeline in the future. I think we’ll
probably see those projections again of those —
the refreshed spreadsheet? I know your report says in the
future, the 10-year outlook?>> Eventually a rolling 10-year
>> That will be good. I think that will work in tandem
with this and help give us even a more high-level view of that.
Thank you. Appreciate it.>> You’re very welcome.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Anyone else? [No Audible Response]
Ok. The>> Ok. Next report is the very
last measure of the general obligation bond report. Since
those funds were completely extended as of June 30. This
report is kind of a two-for-one. The first report is a financial
report. It is an audit of just the
financial statements for just the general obligation fund of
the district. It’s not going to have any debt
in there, not fixed assets, pungs pensions it’s strictly
balanced sheet items which in this case were none because it
was extended and revenue and expense. Again, on page three of this
report is that same exact paragraph where we have an
unmodified opinion stating that the district’s records of the
general obligation fund was fairly stated in all material
aspects. On the second part is the second report which is the performance portion
of our audit. And that’s where we actually look at the
expenditures in detail to make sure they conform with approved
projects, the ballot language passed when measure V was
approved by the voters of the district. And on page 4 of that report,
out of the 3.5 million that was spent, we’ve sample 60% which is extremely high for
an audit. And found no questionable expenditures.
Everything was spent within the guidelines outlined in measure
V. Any questions on those reports?
>>ROBERT MILLER: Any questions? Sample 60% what do you normally
sample?>> I would say for those we try
to do — even those are higher than your district audit but I
would say the sweet spot is between 25 to 50 in
there. With this just being the last one I think we wanted to go
for a little extra credit on this one. [Laughter] We try to
get a sample of higher dollar, lower dollars. The last thing we
want to do is pick three big invoices and go I pick 60%. So we try to get a mix of seeing
how many purchases and transactions there were, get a sample of that as
well as a dollar threshold. I believe we looked at at least
— probably 40. Which, again is pretty high for
that specified of an audit. So that narrowed the scope.
>>ROBERT MILLER: One more report?
>> Yes. One more. The smallest one I have is the
district parking fees program. This one, once again, has that
familiar unmodified audit opinion. It’s page 3 also. And
this one we are just making sure that the parking fee revenues
and expenses as reported in the general fund of the district are
fairly stated. The revenues and expense that are reported in
there do reflect activity with this program. And, again, no adjustments, no
modifications to our audit, opinion.
Any questions on this? [No Audible Response]
>>ROBERT MILLER: No questions?
[No Audible Response] Thank you very much.
>> Thank you very much. Have a good night.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Do I hear a motion to approve the
audit report for fiscal year ending June 30, 2018?>> Yes, you do, president
Miller>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you. A
>>ROBERT MILLER: Any discussion? Yes?
>> I’m really impressed because we haven’t had one this
clean. This is amazing. I don’t suppose there’s a bonus program
for the manager in the administration department that
pulled this off but there ought to be. This is just incredible.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Very impressive. Very impressive. Any other discussion, comments?
>> I will only ask our auditor, where have you traveled
from today?>> Our office is in Rancho
cucamunga but my host is in Laverne. I got a 20 head start.
>> I think your family member is looking forward to the
ride home>> Yes. My carpool buddy
actually. Helped me navigate some of that traffic.
>> Thank you.>>ROBERT MILLER: Ok. We’ll
take a vote. All of those in favor?
>> Aye>>ROBERT MILLER: Against.
[No Audible Response]>>ROBERT MILLER: Motion
passes. I think we now go to item 5. 1, report from Patricia stark
but I believe she’s out ill today so we won’t have a report. And I believe Josh —
>> Kenny was going to read —
>>ROBERT MILLER: Yes. I was getting to that.
>> Ok. Sorry.>>ROBERT MILLER: For the
record, you’re providing the report for the associate the
students.>>KENNY IGBECHI: On behalf of
Josh.>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you.
>>KENNY IGBECHI: Good day, Dr. Beebe, Board of
Trustees. I’m here to present the report
on behalf of Josh who has a final right now. Currently we
have 64 active [Indiscernible] on campus today. During our [Indiscernible] for
trustee, no applications were turned in. In response to this,
the [Indiscernible] extended [Indiscernible] until a new trustee is appointed
and trained. We are concentrating on a bill
cycle event. And we are concentrating on bill
cycle events, informing students
[Indiscernible] that were proposed. We have letters supporting NCD
to go all electric and Santa Barbara Metro transit district to switch 100%
electric buses by 2030. [Indiscernible] informing
students about food waist, plastic [Indiscernible] and
[Indiscernible]. We now have an international
student affairs position. We have — we had our monthly
lunch with [Indiscernible] which had
[Indiscernible] in attendance. On the event [Indiscernible]
voted to recommend [Indiscernible] . We also voted on
[Indiscernible] training determined by the equity and black students faculty and
staff, for all members of the Board of
Trustees, [Indiscernible], managers, lead,
and [Indiscernible] members of SBCC’s faculty and staff. We also voted on recommending [Indiscernible] independence
council — independent council or entity
[Indiscernible] responsibility of reviewing harassment claims
and determining the responses. For finals week we obligated
$5,000 to support students with [Indiscernible] for outstand —
[Indiscernible] library. Moving forward in the spring semester
we are going to have a music event to help create culture and love on
our campus. [Indiscernible] will be opening
up positions [Indiscernible]. Thank you. Do you have any
questions?>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you,
trustee Igbec hi.>>KENNY IGBECHI: Thank you.
>>ROBERT MILLER: And I understand that we do not have a report
tonight from classified employees right, Liz?
[No Audible Response] Next, the report from the
superintendent president beebe.>>DR. ANTHONY BEEBE: So
as you pointed out, we’re in finals week this week. And, of course, it’s an
extremely stressful time for students. One of the things that
our faculty and staff have always recognized and
stressed — recognized is the stress the students have been
under. They do some amazing things to help reduce that
stress. Everything from pancake breakfast to dog petting and dog walking,
destressers of different kinds, classroom meditations and then I
think you’ve probably seen some of the banners that we have out where it talks about
quote/unquote you’ve got this. Right? And encouraging students. It’s
really great that they support the students in the way that
they do. So best of luck to all of the students out there for their
finals. Job well done with the faculty.
I do want to talk a little bit about racism and some of the
things that have been mentioned here tonight. I think it’s
really important. As Ethan pointed out, it is an opportunity for us, a real
opportunity. And as Dr. Hutchinson pointed out, you
know, we don’t want this to go silent. We don’t want this to be an item
that just goes away. I’d like to look at this as a new normal for us to be talking
about racism. We have spent considerable time
on campus discussing individual
racism, institutional racism, societal
racism and so on. On campus. And this is all, I think, important
and good work for us. These are difficult conversations they’re
very difficult conversations. But if we believe in equity and diversity as we all profess to,
that’s written in our mission statement, it’s right over your shoulder there,
we need to have these discussions to make the college
better and more welcoming for all students. It’s going to be
some tough work and we have to continue forth with that. I wanted to give a few updates.
Dr. [Indiscernible] has been collaborating and going some
good work with several representatives from the EEO
committee, the learned committee, and
others. And she’s having some ongoing dialogues in
coordination with the black faculty and staff association and other
coalition groups to identify and evaluate some meaningful
training related to all of this. Some other discussions have been
taking place as well that relate to
restorative work. And this is separate and apart
in some ways but it also is integrated and it’s a foundation
for a lot of the racial discussions that we’re talking
about. But this restorative work really builds trust it builds relationships
and it expands capacity of the institution to be able to have
the conversations necessary to really make some headway on some
of the things that have been discussed here tonight with the
public comments. Wherever we can we’re also
moving forward with training opportunities right now. We, for example, last Tuesday
had an all managers initial discussion about campus climate,
some of the problems that we have on campus related
to this, the racial aspects, diversity. That training was well received
and much appreciated. But that’s just a taste. That’s just the
beginning of all of this. This is really a tremendous
opportunity that must be very thoughtful in
how we approach it. And as
[Indiscernible] said a couple of board meetings ago, we must get
this one right. We have to do a good job of this. We don’t want to alienate
people. We want to be as inclusive as we possibly can.
So this is a great opportunity to be able to move
the college forward and do it together. We have also identified some
areas, structural changes, that need to be made. And we’re going
to be improving our reporting and responsiveness to incidents
of discrimination and actually all kinds of complaints using —
we need to have a better name for this
but a universal complaint form, if you will, some kind of a form
that makes it very simple for people to be able to file
complaints and have that date stamped. It goes to one
individual that we know will be responsible for if and be able
to move forward with that. There’s lots ever models out
there that will help us with this kind of
work. But also we’re going to be spend
something time actually visiting some colleges and universities
and seeing how those models work and how they
might be adoptable to do what we’re doing
here. We’ve got — somebody mentioned
the impending investigations we have actually a couple of
investigations that are ongoing. One relates to what transpired
— transpired in the gender equity meeting but we have some
other investigations taking place related to the library and
other incidents. We’ve recently learned about. And those investigations, we’re
going to be able to file some kind of report so that the
campus will know where we are with that. We’ve also been involved with
some facilitated discussions recently in our college planning council meeting
we had professor Rhonda McGee, who is
an expert facilitator and an expert on institutional racism , racism in different areas. And she came and was introduced
and gave some nice tips about ways
to think about things. And the outcome of all of this was we’re
going to have a CPC retreat facilitated by professor medical
gee — McGee. So we’re look forward to that. And that will
take place January 9. So we’re excited about that. So overall, I just want to
repeat that the idea of this going away
and becoming silenced and us going back to the way things
were, I can’t see that ever happening here. This institution has been
touched in a way that I don’t believe will ever let that
happen. And I don’t think that we should let that happen as
well. So this is a new normal for us to be able to understand
the problems that we have, to be able to move forward and figure out ways to mitigate it.
I just want to say one last thing. That is that Dr. McGee talked about this being a career-long, lifelong effort for
us. And I believe that’s absolutely true and we all need
to be able to adopt that, that idea that we’re in it
for the long haul. That’s my report..
>> Thank you, Dr. Bee be. I think everybody appreciates
those comments. I’m pleased to hear that we are
moving forward on a number of different fronts. And we have a
lot of work to do. We recognize that I think everybody on the
board recognizes that. And we look forward to working
with you in the coming weeks, months, and
years. To address this very, very
important issue. So thank you. Yes?
>> You could talk more specifically on the progress for
the trainings? And then specifically what trainings
could be for the board? Because I I think — you know, we can’t
do any actual groundwork on ourselves because we’re not
staff but how is the board going to be involved in the antiracism
training? Because so many people have asked us to and we haven’t
done anything. I asked for it to be an agenda item. Didn’t get on
the agenda. I want to know what’s going to happen next.
>>DR. ANTHONY BEEBE: There’s a couple of fronts with
that. Maybe Dr. Haslund might want to talk about this, too.
But we know that and I know that you know that we have the California
— the league for community colleges. And they have several
programs and class that could be offered in
this realm. So that’s one avenue. Another avenue is I
believe to join in with some of the training that we’re going to be offering that has
been researched and some of the things that Dr. Haslund has been
working on with some of the coalitions and
associations. Mona, did you want to speak a
little about that? I know we’re wanting to be very
careful about specifics because we’re still in the process of understanding
particular organizations that offer this kind of thing. So we’re trying to be mindful of
that.>> It’s a plan to include the
board in the general training that the rest of the campus
undergoes or do we have our own training just as a board? Is it
invite the board members to come if you can make it or is it a
deathed board retreat where there’s a training for the whole
day?>> That would be your decision.
>> I asked for it to be on the agenda so we could make that
decision.>> I don’t really have much to
add to that. We’re taking baby steps with the training to make
sure we’re listening to all of the stakeholders. So we’re
moving very slowly with this work to ensure that all the
voices are heard. We’re looking forward to having our first
meeting next week. We’re going to decide after
listening to what are the action steps and what’s going to be meaningful and
intentional and productive for our
institution. We will keep you posted on that progress.>> I just hope that we go for a
very credible antiracism organization. Because I don’t
think the community college league is necessarily the
well-known organization for antiracism in California. Well respected in the antiracism
community not just community college community.
>> Just to comment on that, the California league
doesn’t actually provide any training on this but what they do facilitate are
organizations to come in and be able to provide the training.
So, yeah, they don’t provide the training but they have
organization that come in and put on the
workshops.>> Thank you.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Any other questions? Trustee parker?
>>KATE PARKER: Since trussee Abboud brought up the
talking about the training for the board, I’ll be the second
trustee that will request that that be on the agenda in the
near future.>>ROBERT MILLER: Very good. We now go to item 6.3 which is
establishment of our meeting date, organizational meeting
date, for 2019. There’s a recommendation that the Board of Trustees approve the meeting
date which is, again, December 12,
2019. Do I hear a motion to adopt that date?>> [Inaudible; off mic]
>>ROBERT MILLER: A second?
>> Second.>>ROBERT MILLER: Any
discussion? [No Audible Response]
All of those in favor?>> Aye.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Against? [No Audible Response]>> Trustee Miller, you guys,
did we appoint a liaison to the Foundation Board and to the —
>> [Inaudible; off mic]>> Later? Ok.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Item –>> It’s later in the
agenda.>> Got it. Ok. For some reason
I was thinking we had done that all at once already.
>> [Inaudible; off mic]>>ROBERT MILLER: It’s
coming.>> Appointment. Yes.
>>ROBERT MILLER: 6.5, recommend the Board of Trustees
elect a representative, an alternative — an alternate to the county
committee on school district –>> Can we go back one?
6.4. Establishing the meeting dates.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you. 6.4 identifies all of the
proposed meeting dates for 20189 — 2019 which I
believe follows the normal pattern of the second for Thursday at 4:00. Do I hear a motion to adopt the
schedule as outlined in item 6.4?>> [Inaudible; off mic]
>> I’ll second.>>ROBERT MILLER: All of those
in favor?>> Aye.
>>ROBERT MILLER: All of those against?
[No Audible Response]>>ROBERT MILLER: None. Ok.
6.5 is the appointment of the representative and alternate
to the county committee on school
district organization. I guess this is where I ask if there are
any volunteers. Trustee Nielsen?
>> I just started doing this about the time you came on
to the board because we needed someone to do that. There will
be in the coming months work to be done. There hasn’t been much yet to
interface about. But there’s issues coming up. So I’d be
happy to continue that. I just barely learned where the
meeting places are and met some of the people. So if you would
like me to continue, I’ll be happy to if someone else really wants to do it, that’s fine by
me.>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you for volunteering and your
willingness to continue. Is there anybody else who is
also interested in the position?>> For this one I support
Trustee Nielsen. All of us have done it. You kind of just hang
out until something happens. And if something is about to happen,
please go after it.>> Thank you.
>>ROBERT MILLER: I do hear a motion that Trustee Nielsen will
be our representative to the county committee on school
district organization?>> So moved.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Second?>> Second.
>>ROBERT MILLER: All of those in favor?
>> Aye.>>ROBERT MILLER: Ok. Next is the appointment of a representative to the
foundation.>> I’d like to continue. Only got to go to a couple of
meetings but the meetings are now not in conflict with work.
So I want to go more.>>ROBERT MILLER: Trustee
Abboud, thank you for volunteering to continue in that
position. Is there anybody else who is interested in this
position? If not, I would hear a motion to
approve. Thank you. A second? All in favor?>> Aye.
>> I can ask for a point of order on the previous item, 6.5. It does call for an alternate.
Does that need a vote as well on the alternate? I know that they’re very fussy
when it comes to the county committee.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Do we have a volunteer?
>> We did not have –>> [Inaudible; off mic]
>> It’s Dr. Haslund.>>DR. PETER HASLUND: I would
be delirious with joy.>> So moved.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you, Dr. Haslund. All of those
in favor?>> Aye.
>> Wait a second.>>ROBERT MILLER: Second?
>> Second.>>ROBERT MILLER: Ok. All of
those in favor?>> Aye.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you. 6.7 revision to the board
policies, Chapter 7 human resources I
believe this is the second reading for this . Do I hear a motion to adopt
the revisions to BP7250 academic
employees and educational administrators?
>> So moved.>>ROBERT MILLER: A second?
>> Second.>>ROBERT MILLER: All of those
in favor?>> Aye.>>ROBERT MILLER: I
believe next is the consent agenda and ask if anybody would like any item removed from
the consent agenda which I believe
goes from 7-point — or 8. 1 to 10.4. Any request to remove
any items? If not, do I hear a motion to approve the consent
agenda? Trustee Nielsen? Is there a second?
>> Second.>>ROBERT MILLER: Any
discussion? [No Audible Response]
All of those in favor?>> Aye.>>ROBERT MILLER: Next item is
11. 2, prop 30EPA expenditure report
for 2018-19. Is there a presenter for this?
>> James, do you want to talk to this one? James can talk about it.>> All right. So this
item, it’s an item that comes up about once a year where we both
look backwards at what we did spend
last year’s education protection act
or EPA money on. And then what we plan to use it on going
forward. It’s something that part of the statue requires that
we come to the board and be approved. In both cases we have always,
since this act was passed, used this money to fund our adjunct
[Indiscernible]. It’s largely — it’s one of the
biggest pools that happens to almost meet that money. So for
recordkeeping purposes, it’s really easy for us to just say
we use our adjunct money — we use this money to pay for
adjuncts. That’s what both of these are. When it shows that
last year we spent I believe a little over $9 million on —
that’s the amount of money we received in this. And then we
turned around and spent ton adjunct. And the next year we’re slated
to receive $11 million but that changes in February.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Any questions? Trustee parker?
>>KATE PARKER: This is an abstract question. Is there a point when it
switches from prop 30 to prop 55?
>>ROBERT MILLER: That’s a good question.
>> James: I think it has switched to prop 55. I don’t
know. That’s probably something we should clarify in our
language.>>KATE PARKER: Just a question
mark for the future.>> James: Prop 30 did sunset
the prop 55 extended the income tax
portion for I believe through 2030.
>>ROBERT MILLER: What is prop 55?
>>KATE PARKER: That’s what he was saying that it’s
sunsetted. It was a vote of the people
under proposition 55 that continued on a portion of it.
>> James: Proposition 30 was passed as we were running
into, I believe it was in 2013 — 2012? Thank you, Jonathan.
Sorry. I started here in 2013. I knew it had just hit right
then. It passed in 2012 Eastern con
taped both an income tax portion on
higher earning individuals as well as sales tax portions. The sales tax portion sunsetted
and was not rehe-uped but I believe it’s proposition 55 did re-up the
income tax portion through 2030. And that does equal somewhere —
it’s generally around $10 million. The income tax — the sales tax
portion had been about $2 million. So that is phased out.
Ultimately all of this is part of our total computational
revenue. So if the money from this act
goes down, then our apportionment goes up and
property taxes and enrollment fees are all kind of combing
over in all of that. That’s all part of the big funding formula
with the state.>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you.
Any in other questions? Trustee Haslund?>>DR. PETER HASLUND: There’s nothing
in the law that says that these funds must be expended in any
particular way, is there? James: There is something
in the law that says it can’t be expended on administrative
salaries.>>DR. PETER HASLUND: Right. James: It has to go towards
constructional activities. It’s an easy mix for us to just move
that money into that area. We do have to account for it
separately. So just from an ease of use,
that’s what we’ve done rather than try to parse it out over a
bunch of other different instructional areas. We’re not
alone in that I think a lot of community colleges are doing
almost the exact same thing. Peter Haslund: Thanks.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Anybody else?
[No Audible Response] Thank you. I do hear a motion to approve
the use of $11,231,695 of education
protection account proceeds resulting from the passage of Proposition
30 to be accounted for as instructional salaries and
benefits as presented?>> So moved.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Second?>> Second.
>> Second.>>ROBERT MILLER: Any
discussion? [No Audible Response]
Hearing none. All of those in favor?
>> Aye.>>ROBERT MILLER: Any against?
[No Audible Response] Ok. Next item, 11. 3, a business services action
item.>> I’ll move to accept 11.3 and
11.4 at the same time.>>ROBERT MILLER: Do we have a
>>ROBERT MILLER: Any discussion?
[No Audible Response] All of those in favor?
>> It’s a roll call.>>ROBERT MILLER: Ok.
>> Trustee Kenny Igbechi?>> Aye.
>> Marsha Croninger?>> Aye.
>> Parker?>> Eh.
>> Miller?>> Eh.
>> Abboud?>> Yay.>> Miller?
>> Eh.>> Haslund?
>> Eh.>>ROBERT MILLER: Next item,
12. 1, budget timeline which sets
out in detail the deadlines for
adoption for a budget next year. Give me a moment. This is not an action item but
an informational item. Is there any discussion?
>> Yeah. I’ve requested this I think almost every year
I’ve been on the board but I feel like it would be really
helpful if there was more public participation in our budget
process, especially on the earlier end. And I would really
appreciate if we as a board — I mean, it’s been great the level
of detail that’s changed since 2016 to now. Night and day. I
had no idea what the budget was in 2015. Now I think I
understand it very well because of everything that’s happened. But I think we need to be more
detailed. Just like five line items and being told salaries,
this much, benefits this much is not the level of detail
that the fiduciary responsibility we’re supposed to
have. So I’d just like to ask if maybe at the beginning of
January we can get a very detailed budget just so that
when we’re going into approving the higher level line items we
just know what we’re actually approving, just to know more.
Because we are voted in to approve this budget. It’s one of
our main jobs.>>ROBERT MILLER:
Comments?>> What exactly do you want,
Jonathan?>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: From what
I’ve seen at other, you know, districts, they get a very
detailed version of the budget when the budget process begins.>> Whose budget process?
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: Other districts.
>> But I guess I want to understand what you’re
requesting. Because I’m not clear. So who gets —
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: When we get the budget, the general
fund budget it says academic salaries, staff,
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: Very general. It’s a small pocket of what we
receive.>> How detailed would you want
it? I tend to agree with you. I think we should have a greater
— I’m also concerned about –>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: I
don’t think like math department this much money I think that’s
maybe too detailed. But I think just delving in more like how
much is spent on full-time faculty, part-time faculty, on adjunct
faculty, I could keep going on. Maybe I can find some examples
and share that.>> We have an example from the
facilities — fiscal committee. And we actually got it down,
gosh, to the number by the number of students that were
served, how much that department costs to operate. And
I think what I’ve heard from Lyndsay and the team, they, I
think, in study sessions will go as deep as we want. I think that that’s very — I
guess — you want all of that embedded in that big budget?
It’s not a five-page document.>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: I
know.>> It’s meaty.
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: And I think just give it to us. Maybe
give us the previous fiscal year’s in January so we can
start looking at what the budget looks
like. We’ve — the fiscal committee hasn’t existed in two
years. So that level of detail hasn’t been looked at by the
board in two years now.>> I guess we should look at
the level defend tail we want. Question requested — we
requested this, too, for facilities and we all got like
detail. Like Lyndsay and the team opened up everything. And
we were like, oh, this is too much I don’t think it’s what we
wanted. But I think we all agree. But it has to be
something that makes sense at our level to get because I know
we offer facilities — I don’t know how many of you read it.
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: I don’t know if I was here —
>> It was recent.>> It was a couple of months
ago.>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: From the
summer. No. I read that.>> All of the attachments?
Thousands of pages>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: I read to
the level that I wanted to not the level that I was given. I
was given everything and I said, ok, I’ll go 60% and I I think
when it’s given us, then it becomes available to the public.
And then anybody who lives in our district who pays into the
institution can then have an opportunity —
I’ve met some people during the campaign who were asking such
detailed questions about the budget that I was like, I have
no idea. That’s never been presented to us. So maybe just
making that available would be nice, an effort of
transparency. If we could get the fiscal level of detail to
the board level that would be really cool especially since
that committee hasn’t existed for two years. So that means no
one has looked at it of this board who votes on this, in two
years.>> We have been able to ask
questions or details and I did a few times and got them very
swiftly. It’s been available to us if we
ask for it. At least that’s been my experience. I didn’t hear
anybody else — except I do agree with you that it would be
nice but I think we need to be careful what we ask for because I don’t want
to sift through 1,000-page report. But I do want the
information. So we should spend a little time
being very specific about what we ask
for on a long-term basis.>> Yeah. I wouldn’t — I was
just going to add I think we should be cautious about what it is we do with that
information. What I think our college does a
really good job of is building the budget through the
participatory governance process. And it’s not for us to
come swooping in and start fiddling with the numbers. What we did, and I think you’re
referring to this, Veronica is at one point we talked about cost of
different academic programs, different departments. That’s a
different view. That’s not something that is ordinarily in
the budget. It is basically a question of what’s the cost of
our different width etc. that we are producing. And I think it gave us insight
into our programs and efficiency issues and all of that. But it’s
not going to come with the budget. And to me some of those
are the more important high-level questions that we
might want to understand.>> It was like nursing. Nursing
is so expensive for us but we’re not going to not run the nursing
department. So I think that that was sort of what we –>> It’s good to know — I would
benefit from knowing that. I would never say like let’s cut
nursing department. But it’s good to understand that because
we are the ones who have to vote on it. So if anyone asks why did you do
that, you’re going to have to be able to answer that question one
day. So I just think as a measure of transparency, we
could just get the folder, the binder, and be like, cool, put
it on the shelf and never see it again or you could comb through
it at your leisure, take a week every time and go through it. I
don’t know. It’s up to you. You’re a board member. I can’t
tell what you to do. But I think the level of information should
be given at the higher level and then up to you to what do with
it. But we’re all expected to know what’s usually been
presented Nast two years.>> [Inaudible; off mic]
>>MARSHA CRONINGER: Having a line item which is what the budget
looks like for the cost of say the nursing program doesn’t tell us what it means on
a per student cost it doesn’t tell us
what part of the academic program, for example, it may use for that
number of students if you’re trying to get at some of those questions, I think
those — I 100% support the nursing program. I’d like to see
it even larger. But it is just being used here
an example to understand that the budget I think, and James,
correct me if I’m wrong, will not tell you other than here’s
the line item. So the next question to me is the more
important one.>> James?>> I was just going so say I
think that’s something that’s fairly easy for us to do. We actually do build the budget
in excruciating detail, down to
each line of benefits for each individual
employee. So it’s very easy for us to roll it up at whatever
level you’re comfortable with. I think we can come up with some
categories, like you said, full-time employees versus
part-time employees, you know, faculty and staff,
etc. Just kind of break those down into maybe more meaningful
numbers. I think that would be something that’s relatively easy
for us to do.>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: That would
be really appreciated.>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you.
>> And Veronica, the report you were referring to,
that was a cost of that PAS report, something that was a
special report but we can do that again if that’s something
the board is interested in looking at.
>>VERONICA GALLARDO: No. You guys are on fire, amazing I
guess my point was that this requires so much time on this amazing staff that
what you did was amazing and I would not
request anything unless it was in a timely manner or whatever.
But, no. I think what you have done in the last James: We’re happy to work
with what you’re looking for. We six years is hands down amazin
amazing. want to make sure the budget
you’re seeing is the budget you’re comfortable with. I think we’ve tried to go that
direction and make sure that everyone’s ware of what’s in the
budget and try to increase transparency. So if there’s
something you’re not getting, please, I’m happy to work with
that.>>ROBERT MILLER: Thanks again.
Thank you very much. Trustee parker?
>>KATE PARKER: Quick question. In the budget
development timeline that I see I don’t see a time listed for board review and board adoption. James: The tentative budget
needs to be approved. Sorry. I’m Is that already decided for 1920
— 19-20? trying to scroll through it real
quick here, by June 30. So that’s our tentative budget.
>>KATE PARKER: Ok. So I was look — I wasn’t look far
enough down on the page. So it’s April 11 is when we’re going to
see it the first time. Is that correct?
James: Let me see here. The board is green. That helps.
Sorry. I’ll clean up some of the colors on that.
>>KATE PARKER: That’s ok. James: You begin seeing it
around April 11. That’s largely because it does take us a long
time to just get ball rolling. We find out mid-January from the
governor’s office what their initial proposals are. And that really kicks off our
budget. We normally start with our
revenues and then at the same time we have all of our
governance groups working through all of the expenditures
while we’re working on the revenues. And then we start
pulling that together. The Budget Committee in early April starts looking at each
individual department’s budget in detail. And going through
that. We don’t go to a pure zero-based
budgeting model but we do come very close to that where we are — we
look at the prior year budget as a guideline and then ask
everybody to fill out the new budget fresh. Just to ensure
that we’re not just rolling over things we don’t want to roll
over. So it’s normally around early April we will start seeing
things like the revenue pieces. We do piece it out a little at
the beginning. And then I believe somewhere in May you’ll
start seeing a little bit of the full budget. And then in June
you’ll see the full budget twice for approval of the tentative
budget>> It looks like our window is
April to September. James: Pretty much. And
then over the summer once we get the may revise, normally the May
revise is not built into the tentative budget because it
comes so late in the game. We really don’t have time to
completely react to that again, it depends on what’s until the
May revise if it’s a fairly simple changes, we’ll try and
get that in. But if it’s like last year,
there’s just no way when there’s so many changes for us to dump
that all in a week. And then run it through all of our governance
process.>> Thank you.
>> [Indiscernible] they do community forums and you’re part
of the community so you can come to those, too, or anytime
they’re out on other campuses. So that’s a great way, too. I
know I’ve come to them just on my own because I’m like let me
hear this before it comes to me. These guys are great.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Thank you. Any other questions?
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: One last one. In terms of like what
I was requesting in terms of what we see, just one thing I am really interested in seeing
is the breakdown between the tuition revenue we get and then
the breakdown with the property tax revenue we get. Our budget
just is not clear. It says local and state and local means I
think both tuition and property taxes. I don’t know if we want to
combine — they’re very different. Maybe I’m wrong. But
it’s just not clear in the document we get what tuition
money comes in, what out of state student money comes in,
and what property tax money comes in. Because someone asked
me how much property tax does SBCC get and I had to dig and
find an auditor’s report from 2013 that was buried on the
county website. And it was breaking down what each local
institution got from the property tax increment. So I
think it would be real.>>> To have that more detailed
breakdown of our revenue.>> I’ve been to the process
once and I have that same confusion.
James: We can clear that up. Like I said, all of the details
there. So we can come up with a version that I think will answer
your questions.>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: Cool. Thank
you.>> I would just add that the
think the place to look for that data is in the chancellor’s
office database under the financial services it’s readily available for every college in
the 114 colleges. And how our funding is divvied
up and what portion of it is property tax or tuition and their assumptions
obviously reality takes place other the year. — over the year
but probably matches up initially with what you’re
projecting.>> If anyone needs a refresher
–>> Thank you. I knew I had seen
those numbers and find them routinely. I was going, wait a
minute. I see those numbers. That’s where I have been see
being them. Thank you>> In the study session that
particular yo gave us, that was a good refresher. So if you go
back and listen to that tape, he really goes through every single
thing in great detail, step-by-step of the revenues and
all of that stuff. So it’s like a refresher.
>>ROBERT MILLER: I do hear a motion to adjourn?
>> So moved.>> Point of order? Did we skip item 11.5?>> We don’t have a 11.5.
>> I’m sorry, 11.4, resolution No. 5 —
>>ROBERT MILLER: That was combined.
>> Thank you.>> [Indiscernible: Multi-voice overlap]
>>ROBERT MILLER: Our new trustee is paying attention to
the details. Thank you.>>KATE PARKER: Not always
catching them.>> We did skip testimony 13,
items for pew tour board consideration. And in light of
everything that has happened, it seems to me that we might benefit from a regular report
from the superintendent president progress being made in
this respect, with respect to the two issues that are
frequently raised, having to do with gender equity and racism.
Just a short update. We have accomplished these things. We’ve
discovered these things. My hope is that — my hope is
that we will be taken seriously, that we are dedicated to this process and
that perhaps a regular report of
progress might facilitate that
understanding.>>DR. ANTHONY BEEBE: If it
would please the board, I’d be glad to do it.
>>ROBERT MILLER: Great idea.
>>KATE PARKER: And a question about the way items
works, board considerations, does the board president keep a running list in
conjunction with Dr. Beebe?>>DR. ANTHONY BEEBE: And
did I note that we had two trustees that want to
have the antiracism training put on the agenda for next time. So
so noted with that. That’s what it takes, is two
trustees. So we’ve got that.>> Item 15.1 is usually
where that running list is. Of things that have been planned
but we haven’t done yet. So that was developed for that
purpose.>> Is that an assumption then
that every — I’m used to sometimes it taking more time
for things to come on to a board meeting. So it was great. If you
make a request, will it always be on the next agenda item, on
the next agenda?>> No. It’s a to be extend it doesn’t
necessarily mean the next agenda. It has to get worked out
between Dr. Beebe and the board president how quickly you can
get it on there.>> Ok. So that will get in on
the next agenda we will see those two additions on the to be
scheduled?>> Because they’re moving slow,
he said, with [Indiscernible]>> It could also be on the
next agenda.>>DR. ANTHONY BEEBE: It could
be. I’m not sure we’ll be ready for that but we will try.
>> Thank you.>> Did we get an update on the
housing survey at some point? Probably not the next agenda but
maybe one of the earlier ones of 2019?>> I would like to request if
we cannot add anymore. I am mindful of the load here. And
there’s a lot. So I would ask to hold on that because think that
that’s important. And we want to make sure that
these things get done not just brought us because we said we
wanted them but that, you know, it’s the scope of the work gets
done.>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: I wasn’t
asking for the survey to be done and brought to us. I was asking
if there could be an item like an update, maybe provide
direction on the questions asked in the survey. I don’t know.
Just having that — we took action. The board made a
decision. Maybe we should follow-up a
little bit and keep updated on what’s going on with that
decision.>>VERONICA GALLARDO: I would
suggest we wait on that. I think there’s a lot. I don’t know if other trustees
would say just wait.>> My concern is that we not
overload our administration all at once with a lot going on. We
do really have a focus right now on certain key issues. If we
take on too much at once, we don’t do anything well.
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: I’m just asking for an update on a
board decision. Thanks.>> I can comment on that? We
actually have been working. I’ve been talking with Jeff green
about that survey. I could give you an update. It
is something that I’ve been working on, the traffic flow as
well. Both of those topics are things that you direct med to do
last time and I’ve been working on it.
>>JONATHAN ABBOUD: Thank you. Very easy.
>>ROBERT MILLER: We have a motion to adjourn?
>> Oh, yes.>>ROBERT MILLER: A second?
>> Second.>>ROBERT MILLER: All of those
in favor?>> Aye.>> Thank you. [the meeting has concluded]